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PostSubject: Re: IWC overrate   Thu Oct 24, 2013 10:37 pm

Christian.

Edge was Batman. He was barely Robin. O-ver-ra-ted.

Agree on Davey Richards and definitely AJ Styles.

And I saw Colt Cabana live a couple of years ago and he was the least interesting thing on the entire (ROH -- I said it) show. Booooorrrrrriiiiinnnnnnngggggg.

Zack Ryder, although I think his IWC ship sailed.

And John Morrison is horrible. With him out of action you don't see the love for him very much, but I can put a jar full of marbles in my mouth and cut a better promo. Not a fan of his in-ring work either, and that carport stuff he did or whatever it's called did nothing for me.

Nice abs, though.
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PostSubject: Re: IWC overrate   Thu Oct 24, 2013 10:40 pm

Did you watch Christian in TNA? The guy had some DAMN fine matches with Jarrett, Joe, etc.
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PostSubject: Re: IWC overrate   Thu Oct 24, 2013 10:58 pm

oh yeah how the hell did I forgot THE most overrated, Colt Cabana? Funny

John Morrison, I KINDA Liked, but he was hella overrated. More of a spot monkey if anything.
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PostSubject: Re: IWC overrate   Thu Oct 24, 2013 11:00 pm

This thread is rustling so many of my jimmies.
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PostSubject: Re: IWC overrate   Thu Oct 24, 2013 11:07 pm

Also, Goldust.
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PostSubject: Re: IWC overrate   Fri Oct 25, 2013 3:42 am

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oh yeah how the hell did I forgot THE most overrated, Colt Cabana? Funny
I fucking hate you, Razor.
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PostSubject: Re: IWC overrate   Fri Oct 25, 2013 5:51 am

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PostSubject: Re: IWC overrate   Fri Oct 25, 2013 4:18 pm

Hate me all you want, it's true. Never liked him, people act like he's incredible, never lived up to expectations. I aint bothered
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PostSubject: Re: IWC overrate   Fri Oct 25, 2013 4:40 pm

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Did you watch Christian in TNA? The guy had some DAMN fine matches with Jarrett, Joe, etc.
Good hand, sure, decent worker.

But calling him Captain Charisma was like calling a 400-pound guy Tiny.

He is a B-level guy at best to me.

I am a Golddust fan, however.
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PostSubject: Re: IWC overrate   Sat Jun 18, 2016 5:09 am

The Young Bucks

They're exciting and all but they don't know a thing about selling.

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PostSubject: Re: IWC overrate   Sat Jun 18, 2016 7:41 am

Man 2013 me was kinda dumb (happy)

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PostSubject: Re: IWC overrate   Sat Jun 18, 2016 8:39 am

@Minkaro wrote:
Ken Anderson - the fact that anybody likes him at all means he's overrated.
Dolph Ziggler - so he bumps well? So do Rollins and Slater.
Matt Striker - not as a wrestler, but the internet seemed to love him as a commentator, whereas I thought he was terrible.
Mike Quackenbush - good wrestler, but I've never liked him, and never found him THAT amazing. Maybe it's because he comes across as a bit of a douche to me.

I still think this.
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PostSubject: Re: IWC overrate   Sat Jun 18, 2016 2:17 pm

Daniel Bryan.

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PostSubject: Re: IWC overrate   Sat Jun 18, 2016 2:22 pm

Bryan Danielson won more World titles than The New York Jets ever will Thirsty Mofos

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PostSubject: Re: IWC overrate   Sat Jun 18, 2016 2:25 pm

He only won like 2 in the company that matters. clown

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PostSubject: Re: IWC overrate   Sat Jun 18, 2016 2:29 pm

And The New York Jets only won one clown

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PostSubject: Re: IWC overrate   Sat Jun 18, 2016 2:47 pm

Not a wrestler, but Mauro Ranallo. I don't dislike him as much as I did when I first saw him on SmackDown, but I definitely don't think he's this commentary God that everyone makes him out to be.

Samoa Joe. I never really got what was special about him, but maybe I just haven't seen enough of him.
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PostSubject: Re: IWC overrate   Sat Jun 18, 2016 3:09 pm

I believe that Finn Balor is someone the IWC overrates. I find him extremely boring.
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PostSubject: Re: IWC overrate   Sat Jun 18, 2016 3:29 pm

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Samoa Joe. I never really got what was special about him, but maybe I just haven't seen enough of him.
It probably didn't help that he got lazy with all the stupid shit TNA was having him do.

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PostSubject: Re: IWC overrate   Sat Jun 18, 2016 4:05 pm

Lesnar is overrated as hell by the IWC. They talk shit about guys like Cena, Roman, Ryback, and ect about their lack of a moveset, yet They fucking love Brock's three moves of doom. Suplexs, f-5 and scream like an idiot. AT one time Brock could really go, but now it's just suplexs and the f-5 now. They trash Roman on the mic, but Lesnar is complete trash without Heyman. They got upset with The rock being a part timer World champion, but there are people who can't wait until Brock is champion again.

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PostSubject: Re: IWC overrate   Sat Jun 18, 2016 4:25 pm

Brock's gotten way better on the microphone. He's still not great, but he's passable on his own, now. Fortunately, he doesn't need to be on his own regardless because Paul's doing Paul's thing.

A lot of the IWC love Brock, but there are still plenty saying that type of stuff. Brock can still go very well. There's a difference between not being able to do moves and just not doing them. He wrestles the way he does because that's what his character demands now. He's meant to be this damn near unstoppable beast. The majority of his matches since returning have been amazing and that's sure as fuck not because of his opponents alone.

His selling is amazing. Yes, I said it. When people think of amazing selling, they think too often of specific ways moves are landed. People criticize Brock for not selling, but he does. His facial reactions and the way he stumbles are how he sells. He's a big, powerful motherfucker. He shouldn't go down from most moves. But when he does go down, even when he gets back up, he makes the move look like it legitimately hurt him and he's not just getting back up and powering through it, he's stumbling. He sells in a realistic way for a guy with his size and gimmick.

Also, he does more than three moves. Not every single Suplex that exists counts as one move. Then there's the Kimura, Powerbombs, etc. He has moves he does often, but so does every wrestler. It's stupid to criticize anyone over that, whether it's Brock, Cena, whoever. Plus, he does those moves very well.

As for not wanting Rock to be champion but being okay with Brock as champion: As mentioned, most of Brock's matches since returning have been great. He's also way more active in the WWE than The Rock was since he returned. Most of The Rock's matches during his time as a part timer were shit and his promos were 50/50. I like The Rock, but I wouldn't want a guy who's hardly even there live to promote his next match and has sub-par matches as champion. I, personally, don't think Brock really needs another title run either, but I'd be far more okay with him as champion than The Rock, because I know I'm in store for a much better match and more build up that isn't via satellite.
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PostSubject: Re: IWC overrate   Sun Jun 19, 2016 1:49 am

Dolph Ziggler is still really good.

Daniel Bryan over-rated is worse than any sports opinion Burdur ever said Fail!

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PostSubject: Re: IWC overrate   Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:01 pm

Not a wrestler, but Heyman gets a lot of praise from the IWC, too, despite getting one guy over the entire time he's been with the WWE, and I don't remember the last time he cut a good promo either. clown
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PostSubject: Re: IWC overrate   Mon Jun 20, 2016 11:40 pm

Hey even Bobby Heenan couldn't get The Red Rooster over.

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PostSubject: Re: IWC overrate   Tue Jun 28, 2016 12:46 am

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Brock's gotten way better on the microphone. He's still not great, but he's passable on his own, now. Fortunately, he doesn't need to be on his own regardless because Paul's doing Paul's thing.

A lot of the IWC love Brock, but there are still plenty saying that type of stuff. Brock can still go very well. There's a difference between not being able to do moves and just not doing them. He wrestles the way he does because that's what his character demands now. He's meant to be this damn near unstoppable beast. The majority of his matches since returning have been amazing and that's sure as fuck not because of his opponents alone.

His selling is amazing. Yes, I said it. When people think of amazing selling, they think too often of specific ways moves are landed. People criticize Brock for not selling, but he does. His facial reactions and the way he stumbles are how he sells. He's a big, powerful motherfucker. He shouldn't go down from most moves. But when he does go down, even when he gets back up, he makes the move look like it legitimately hurt him and he's not just getting back up and powering through it, he's stumbling. He sells in a realistic way for a guy with his size and gimmick.

Also, he does more than three moves. Not every single Suplex that exists counts as one move. Then there's the Kimura, Powerbombs, etc. He has moves he does often, but so does every wrestler. It's stupid to criticize anyone over that, whether it's Brock, Cena, whoever. Plus, he does those moves very well.

As for not wanting Rock to be champion but being okay with Brock as champion: As mentioned, most of Brock's matches since returning have been great. He's also way more active in the WWE than The Rock was since he returned. Most of The Rock's matches during his time as a part timer were shit and his promos were 50/50. I like The Rock, but I wouldn't want a guy who's hardly even there live to promote his next match and has sub-par matches as champion. I, personally, don't think Brock really needs another title run either, but I'd be far more okay with him as champion than The Rock, because I know I'm in store for a much better match and more build up that isn't via satellite.

the only time Brock has been even close to being decent to ok on the mic was when he was in the UFC. His interviews where pretty entertaining. In Wrestling he has always been awkward as fuck on the mic.

80% of his matches are german suplexs now. at WM they had a fucking counter of how many times he did the damn move. I'm not saying he can't wrestle, but he is lazy now. Every since the stupid Cena match and suplex city shit started that's all he seems to do. Yeah he will do a belly to belly once in awhile, but 8 times out 10 he is doing the fucking german suplex.

I rather have my champion showing up via satellite sometimes just so he can be on tv instead of one who we don't hear a fucking peep from in three fucking months. Yeah Rock would be seen on satellite one week but the next week he was on RAW. It was always one week satellite and the next he would actually show up. I much rather have that then ever have another Lesnar reign.


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